"Lest we forget"

A Web Site for the repatriation of the medals of
Commander E.T.Simmons DSO, DSC, RCNVR serving from 1939-1945

"Lest we forget"

Lieutenant-Commander E.T. Simmons DSO, DSC 1910-1988

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The chronology of events that led to the sell of Commander E.T. Simmons medals to an English collector for 8,200 pounds sterling. Comments from people who have read this page.
October 31, 2008 learned of sale of medals from story in Times Colonist Newspaper
November 02 2008 Registered the domain name www.etsimmons.ca with
Canadian Internet Registration Authority (CIRA)
Nov 04,2008 around noon est Web site went public with the appeal to solicit funds to bid at auction for the medals of my father, Commander E.T. Simmons by the auction house of Wallis and Wallis
On or about November 6-7 Friend tried to contact Wallis and Wallis through their on-line registration form with no success.
On or about November 12 - 13 I tried to contact Wallis and Wallis through their on-line registration form with no success.
November 14, 2008 8:32 AM Sent the following email to Wallis and Wallis.
November 14, 2008 Left a voice mail message after there was no response to previous email.
November 14, 2008 10:29 AM Voice mail from Wallis and Wallis. I responded immediately with this email
On or about Nov 14, 2008 Voice communicaton established.
Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:20 AM Email communicaton established.
Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:29 AM Email confirming the over the phone bid details
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:31 AM Email finalizing details.

During a phone conversation earlier, I had established that, if we won the bid they would issue an invoice and payment could be arranged over a period of a week.

This becomes relevant further along.

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 11:41 AM Email providing information asked for in previous email.
Auction day November 18, 2008 6:00 am est The phone rang and it was the auction house. I waited on the line to bid. I heard the auctioneer bid at 14,500 English pounds. I was waiting to see if the bidding would decrease to a level in which I could participate as 14,500 pounds was not a level at which I was able to join in.

When I heard the bidding go up to 16,000 pounds I said to the person holding the phone that this was out of my league, assuming that they had a bid of 14,500 pounds (why else would he increase the bidding?)

The person holding the phone hung up.

I was scheduled to go on CHCH televsion at 8:00 am You can view that interview here.

I didn't post that inteview until now because as you will see from the interview, I had thought I had lost the medals at auction.

As things developed I did not want to confuse the issue after receiving a phone call from Wallis and Wallis informing me that the medals had not been sold at auction about an hour after this interview on CHCH.

I am posting the video clip now just to confirm the fact that I had thought we had lost our bid

After the phone call from Wallis and Wallis, I was led to the understanding that the auction house was going to negoiate their commission with the buyer and then make an offer to us to buy them, which they did.

Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:43 AM Email from Wallis and Wallis
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:25 AM My response.

As you can tell by my response I was trying to open a good faith negoiating position that perhaps we could arrive at a final price and time to meet that price by reactivating the fund raising campaign.

I awaited their response which was...

Monday, November 24, 2008 5:51 AM this email

This email contained the condition of immediately transferring the funds which I could not do so I replied with the following email....

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:15 AM My response to an offer to sell for 9,000 pounds on the condition that the funds were transferred immediately.

And today this final email......

Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 1:14 AM They sold for 8,200 pounds

Please feel free to direct any further inquiries to myself If you don't mind me posting your comments in the comment section, please indicate so in the email. I will not use your email or last name or any other personal idenitfiers, just your comments. Thanks.

Or, if you prefer, you may email the auction house regarding their final disposition.